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Postby shabbychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:48 am

Hello everyone. I just found this great site and have read a few posts - very encouraging. I am starting Kicstart on Monday. I am 84 kilos and want to lose 20 kilos. I joined a gym for 3 months and so I am hoping to lose that much weight in that time. Do you think this is realistic?
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Postby Dolly » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:25 am

Hi Shabbychic, Welcome to the Weightloss Forum.
If I were you, I'd aim for losing 1 kg per week, but if you work extremely hard I guess you could lose more.
I hardly exercise and am averaging ½ a kilo per week.
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You're a little bit too ambitious!

Postby sokbee » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:30 am

Hi there,

I have to say that, you're probably a little bit too ambitous for losing 20kg within 3 months. If it ever really happens, imagine, how can your body handle that? We don't gain 20kg (normally), within 3 months, so why do you think that you should be able to lose that much at the time frame?

To be honest with you, before I go on the supplement programme, I walk about 4-5 times a week, 5 km. And guess what? After 1 month, I have lost.............. 1 kg! How good can that be? I've been eating sensibly in that time too. Don't get me wrong, i am not discouraging you.

We all know it's hard to lose weight, and it will be a long haul process. Why do we want to force ourselve? Losing 20kg in 3 months, that's the average of 6.7kg a month! What would you have to do to get the result? And, how can your mind handle that? Extreme diet? That last you for let's say.. 1 week? Then, you feel bad cus you didn't make it happens, then... you go back to your self-defeat attitue, 'Nah, i tried, tried tried, i just can't make it!"

Let's be realistics, losing 4 kg a month that's already increadible. ( your body should only handle a kg each week). And, trust me, that's easier as well.

You don't just want to look skinny with your new body, you want to look fantastic and healthy!

Well, well, work hard, and try new ways. For me, taking the supplement really helps.

Wishing you all good luck! Sista!
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Postby shabbychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:16 am

Hi there Sokbe. Well there's a challenge and no you have not dicsouraged me. I know of a few people who have lost 20 kilos in 3 months. It is not impossible, however I am not obsessive about losing the weight in that time. Any loss is a great acheivement. I need to get motivated and keep going to the gym I just joined. I get so mad at myself when the old doubts creep in and I get lethargic. I have been eating healthy for months and no weight loss. I am starting a course of Kicstart tomorrow as I have heard good things about it. Is anyone else doing it? I am so glad I found this site. I am definately going to need you all. Thankyou everyone for your replies. I really appreciate it.
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Postby Groovychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:19 am

Well Shabbychic I think you are aiming too high. And just remember that most diets don't last. So DO NOT beat yourself up if you cave in. We all must change our eating habits to lose weight. So if you can imagine yourself on this kickstart diet for the rest of your life, then yes that is the way to go. The best thing for weightloss is to increase your exercise and to eat healthy foods. I don't know what you have been eating over the last months or so but sometimes it works to just cut out 1 or 2 things. Sometimes it doesn't either. Maybe changing your milk from full cream to hi-lo or skim can work. Cut your chocolate down to just a wee bit every now and then.......hhhmmm much easier said than done :lol: But yes try the kickstart but if it doesn't work, please don't be hard on yourself and please just go back to basics. The less processed the food, the better. Raw vegies, such as large salads for lunch with a little low fat cheese, and fruit are great. Only 2 pieces of fruit a day tho as fruit contains a lot of sugar, which turns into fat! Make sure when you are exercising you really sweat. And every extra minute you do, you can think to yourself that it is burning fat!!! I have to do that to make myself go that bit further. It can get very depressing when the scales don't move, so I encourage you to measure yourself. I have had a treadmill for a month now and it has done wonders for size. Not the scales tho as they haven't moved at all but the cms have!!! Arms, bust, stomach, hips and each leg is what I have done. And I have lost over 10cm in total, with only 1/2cm or so coming off each of my limbs. The majority of mine has come off my stomach, which is really what I wanted. If they haven't offered to measure you at the gym, then see if they will. Then at the end of each month, go in and ask them to measure again. You will build up muscle and it weighs more than fat so you might even find you are gaining weight. I have been trying since January to lose weight and have only managed to lose 1kg in those 3 months. It gets depressing but I know I have probably lost the equivalent of 3 to 4kg really because I can see the difference myself. I'm starting to fit back into clothes that didn't fit before, or things are a little looser. Which is more important than the scales. And when you are feeling down, just jump online and come and find us. Before you know you will have a load of encouraging words for you!!! :D
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Postby shabbychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:35 am

Hi there groovychic, Thanks for your advice - always welcome. Over the past 7 months I have learned as much as I can about healthy eating (as I knew absolutely nothing!!). I gave up milk, sugar, cheese, potatoes, white bread, coffee. I don't eat lollies or chocolate. I used to love biscuits but gave those up too. My meal plan is something like this: Breakfast: 2 boiled eggs and 1 multiggrain bread, Lunch: Tuna Salad, Dinner: Gilled chicken or some other lean meat, or fish with salad and a smll portion of brown rice. Snacks are: celery sticks, fruit, a handful of almonds and so on and I drink at least 2 litres of water a day. BUT, there has been little to no exercise. I work from home and sit in front of the computer all day and I realise that is not healthy. So, I have prioritised my time and joined a gym. NOW I need to GET THERE. I am not a lover of exercise, never have been but I am not going to waste the money I have paid on the gym lol. How knows, I might get to like it.
I am not worried if I don't lose 20k in 3 months. I will be happy with any weight loss. Will let you know how the gym goes tomorrow.
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Postby Groovychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:42 am

Sounds like you have the eating down pat Shabby so I don't know why you want to try the kickstart diet. As you were doing no exercise before I think you will find your body responds to this. Good idea for joining of the gym, that way you have to do it. It was like me hiring the treadmill. The nearest gym to me is about 40mins drive away so I really had no choice but to hire the treadmill. I would love to get a weight set as well so I could do that but that will have to wait until after the purchase of the treadmill. And I have saved some more money!!! Only reason I am working at the moment!
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Postby shabbychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:11 pm

Groovychic, Do you want to hear something pathetic? Almost two years ago I set up a spare room as a gym and I bought a treadmill, Exercise bike, hand weights, a small round jumping tramp, and a gym workstation with weight at the back - leg curls etc. I go in now and then to dust them!!!! This is so bad. I finally admitted this to the gym pt and her reply surprised me. She said she has heard the same thing many times. She said that one can feel isolated embarking on an exercise program alone (that's me!) and the gym offers socialisation and the opportunity to work out with others. I am hoping this is true and also hope that by going to the gym I will be motivated to use my own stuff. It would sooooooo help if I had an exercise partner, even for walking but I have tried and tried without success. I have put posters up at the local shops. Maybe I will find someone from my area at the gym and of course, this board is helping me already.
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The Gym Equipment dream...

Postby sokbee » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:33 pm

Hi there,

I can understand about the dream of buying the gym equipments and all you do after all is as you said, to dust them. I already had a couples.

The dream is great, but is the motivation that counts. As I've mentioned before, I went walking 5km each time, 4-5 times everyweek, and all I lose after 1 month was .... 1kg.

As I go on the Admin Censored supplement, I've lost 5kg within the 1st month, and... both me and my partner are doing realy well.

What's more can I can say? since I met him, i was 65, and i was 79kg in January. Just today, we went on the scale, and i am now 71kg, and he's 87kg (6kg lost).

We went to try our clothings that couldn't fit us for a long long time, and what we found was that, i can finally fit on tops that was once really annoys me, as I can the fat squeezing out every where, I can at least see the smoth line along my waist. For my partner, he can actually get on the jeans that he claims he can no longer fit in since he met me, you just can't take away the satisfactory smile on his face. Still long way to go .


I do think that going to the gym would help a lot, if youn can afford. As the lady said, a lot of people brought the dream and didn't realised it because of the isolation factor. My partner and me go to Pilates twice a week, and we are doing good.

Wishing you a great Kickstart! Sista
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Postby shabbychic » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:44 pm

Sounds like you are starting to see some positive results and you are being conisitent with your walking. I need to be consistent too AND motivated. The more I read of peoples successes and acheivments, the more motivated it makes me.
I envy you that you have a partner who does this with you and I hope I too can meet some 'buddies' at the gym. I have never done pilotes but would like to give it a try. I have no idea what it involves. My gym also has Yoga classes 3 nights a week. I have never to been to one of those either. I heard they help you to relax and deal with emotional issues. I feel I could possibly benefit from this as I am aware I have emotional issues to deal with.

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Postby Groovychic » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:09 am

Thats a shame about all the gym equipment you have and not using. Hopefully going to the gym will get you motivated, but not only that, teach you to use your equipment correctly. Maybe you should try coming home from the gym and doing an extra 20 mins or so on your own equipment. I'm surprised you don't have a friend or family member that will exercise with you. But I have to admit, the only person I like to walk with for exercise is my mother because we both walk very fast. So I tend to exercise on my own. But I don't mind it either. I normally put the radio on and off I go for however long I feel like. I try to do at least 30 mins each day but aim for over an hour if I have the time. Try using the exercise diary. I really like to put in how much I have done each day.
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Postby Angel » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:15 pm

Shabbychick,

You ask whether losing 20kg in 3 months is realistic. Ask yourself this, do you want to lose that 20kg for a short amount of time or forever.

The experts say to aim to lose 0.5 - 1kg a week, the slower you lose it, the better you will maintain it. So 1kg a week with no bumps in the road means it would take you 5 months.

Also, is the eating plan you are on now something you will stick to when you are 20kg lighter?

I have embarked on a lifestyle change as opposed to a diet, all this means is that each day I aim to eat as healthily as I can but I don't deprive myself of the things a love (therefore I avoid binges). So if biscuits are the thing you can't do without, have them but in moderation. I'm a big fan of the 80/20 rule, 80% of the time you eat healthily i.e. for nutrition, 20% you don't. And remember, the 20% doesn't have to be foods we consider 'bad' (chocolate, takeaway, chips etc), it can be foods that are high in KJs, offer very little nutrition and should only even be eaten occasionally. For me, I find this a more realistic approach to shedding my weight.

But, above all you have to find an approach that suits you and for me, its pretty important for it to be one that is maintainable when I'm lighter. Food for thought for you.

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Postby shabbychic » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:37 pm

Angel wrote:Shabbychick,

You ask whether losing 20kg in 3 months is realistic. Ask yourself this, do you want to lose that 20kg for a short amount of time or forever.

The experts say to aim to lose 0.5 - 1kg a week, the slower you lose it, the better you will maintain it. So 1kg a week with no bumps in the road means it would take you 5 months.

Also, is the eating plan you are on now something you will stick to when you are 20kg lighter?

I have embarked on a lifestyle change as opposed to a diet, all this means is that each day I aim to eat as healthily as I can but I don't deprive myself of the things a love (therefore I avoid binges). So if biscuits are the thing you can't do without, have them but in moderation. I'm a big fan of the 80/20 rule, 80% of the time you eat healthily i.e. for nutrition, 20% you don't. And remember, the 20% doesn't have to be foods we consider 'bad' (chocolate, takeaway, chips etc), it can be foods that are high in KJs, offer very little nutrition and should only even be eaten occasionally. For me, I find this a more realistic approach to shedding my weight.

But, above all you have to find an approach that suits you and for me, its pretty important for it to be one that is maintainable when I'm lighter. Food for thought for you.

Hope you enjoyed your gym workout,
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Hi angel, Thanks for that. To be honest, I would be over the moon to get to 70K. There is no reason for my wanting to lose 20k within 3 months (just impatient) lol. When the weight is finally gone I have no intention of putting it back on, but I guess we all say that. I have been eating healthy and not lost any weight but the important thing is, I now know which foods are healthy and which are not and so I will go back to that when I complete the LD.

Did I enjoy the gym? No. I had to force myself to go. When I got there the pt got me to do the circuit (treadmill first), then the exercise bike and then the treadmill again. All in all 1.5 hrs. I felt a bit out of it. I don't know anyone there and the others didn't look too friendly but I guess they are not there to make friends. I will keep going because I need to lose this weight. I actually picked up my weights when I got home (the pt showed me how to use them at the gym) and used them for about 5 minutes. I am an older woman (54), 2 years into the *M* and I am aware that I need to take care of my bones and muscles. I quite like weights but I am afraid that if I do it too much I will end up with "man" muscles.

I am in relatively good health and don't take any meds. I do have a calcium tablet every night and a high potency Guarana, Ginseng & Ginkgo Tablet every morning. Oh well enough rambling.
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Postby Butterfly_Dawn » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:38 pm

Hi Shabbychick,
I've just lost 23kg in the last 4 months, which was on average around 1kg per week. I think you have to remember that everybody is different - some of us on here are losing quicker than others for a range of differnt reasons. Some people may have sluggish metabolisms that refuse to rev up, others may not be able to exercise as much as they would like for whatever reason.

Whatever rate you end up losing at, you will only be doing good things for your body. And if you don't set yourself too tight a goal, all the better because you won't feel like you failed if you don't reach it.

Anyway, good luck with it and I look forward to sharing your successes!

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