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It's not fat, it's not's 50/50!!

Postby Tams » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:19 pm

Interesting programme I saw lately - you might have too.

Was about 2 identical twins (Drs) who looked at the latest 'fads' of zero sugar diets (and high fat) vs zero fat diets (and high sugar). The latter was the health mantra of the 90s - I remember it well! The former is the current craze (think Paleo, Atkins).

The interesting thing from the programme was it confirmed a lot of what I have come to believe. Our bodies NEED sugar. Without sugar, after one month, that twin was medically advised to stop pronto, as he was just about diabetic. He'd lost a lot of weight. BUT a very high proportion came from lost muscle (not at all good). The low-fat-high-sugar diet twin did really well on insulin levels, lost less weight, and lost less muscle...but still lost muscle (not good). So the message they took out of this was that the body needs sugar to function well. And that exercise is absolutely crucial at all times.

Then the show went on to an Oxford researcher who has been doing a large food study for over 10 yrs. Now, that's RARE. (I know of only one other - the mediteranean diet research, which is ongoing.) Her conclusions were that any one thing - she'd varied them all, like low GI, high fibre, low fat, low sugar etc - did virtually nothing to either our weight, or our health. Pretty good news - our bodies are great at adapting and healing. Her conclusion on the weight 'epidemic' was basically that it is environmental, aka, our modern lifestyles make it 'almost impossible not to sleepwalk into obesity' (loved that sentence!). We had to WAKE UP and actively control our food by simply not eating 'treat' foods as everyday foods.

So, then, the next super interesting thing. Especially when you consider our 'treat' foods and foods of modern convenience (environment) seem to break down into this percentage. High sugar was examined in rats. Then high fat. The body just adjusted cleverly to the increases in energy and moderated the appetite - so negligible affect recorded in weight. Then 50/50 fat and sugar was offered. OBESITY was the result. The theory is that at 50%fat and 50%sugar, our brains are tiggered in the same way as when opiods are taken. Pleasure centres triggered, and addiction also, because of the heady response (no pun intended!). The rats also stopped eating nutritional food, and only wanted to eat the fat/sugar mix. (I notice that response in myself if I go down that path - complete lack of interest in anything else but a sugar/fat mix like chocolate!)

I believe that processed food manufacturers know that there is a 'heady' mix that will sell their food (turns out the crispy kreme glazed donut is so popular because it is precisely 50/50 fat and sugar!). I believe all processed foods will have something in them to make us crave them. The 50/50 fat and sugar combination is just one. There are others like MSG, and high fructose corn syrup - which were beyond the parameters of this programme, but have been looked at in others.

So, my stuff that is FOOD. Cook from scratch. Limit your 'treats'. Don't demonise any one thing (if it is food - an additive or chemically made/modified something is not food). Rather simple really!
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Re: It's not fat, it's not's 50/50!!

Postby CronicBadger » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:34 pm

I've learned something similar through trial and error. Also, by making your own food from basic foodstuffs you not only have a measure of control over the quality but are also exercising a habit of personal responsibility. This is a habit which works in other areas (a transferable skill).

And then takeaway, snack foods, etc become treats for special occasions. Even then, such as on weekly "movie nights", the red wine is partnered with diced fruit and slices of fresh vegetable accompanied by cheese and crackers, rather than just the cheese and crackers.

It all comes down to change - becoming a different person - a person who respects their body and mind, rather than allowing those to be slaves to outside forces.
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Re: It's not fat, it's not's 50/50!!

Postby Blitz » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:41 am

CronicBadger wrote:It all comes down to change - becoming a different person - a person who respects their body and mind, rather than allowing those to be slaves to outside forces.

I like what you wrote above very much Marc. Very well put. 8)

As for this subject...I've read the book that this program based it's ideas on. It was very convincing, particularly the reported lab rat research. But I did feel that the book warped me a bit and made me too radical. Upon reflection I've mellowed my views. It would be too easy to make the whole problem of weight loss an addiction story. The lab rat research can't tell the more complex ideas such as nature/nurture, preference and choice, ignorance and education, personality and character...and a host of other concepts.

The bottom line is no matter what the circumstances of the underlining cause are; change is still required on an individual level just as Marc has pointed out in the passage above.

As for foodstuffs...I've found that processed foods are basically packed with fats and sugars in order to make up for all the goodness stripped out so that the product can have a longer shelf life. This food is often calorie dense but low on "gut satisfaction". It is more profitable for companies to do this but it is more "profitable" for our healthy lifestyle to eat as naturally as possible. One apple is far better for you than a glass of apple juice any day.

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