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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby dotflower » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:18 am

Please DON'T go down this path! You don't need to! How about, before you get that referral to the specialist, you just try counting your carbohydrate intake per day in grams. Believe me, I know that if you can keep to under 50grams of carbohydrate per day, you will lose at least 1kg every week, even without exercising. I did. Please try it. Have meal replacement shakes, bacon and eggs, a huge piece of steak with vegetables or tossed salad. In fact, so long as you keep under this carb limit per day, there is no portion size to worry about with your meat and veges (but don't eat potato). Find out as much as you can about the Atkins diet which is scientifically based, try Atkins shakes (or Xndo shakes as they are SO nice). It is so easy to do this diet and it naturally curbs your hunger. Quite often you have to remind yourself to eat. Why would you WANT to eat tiny portions on your plate while your skinny friends have a large serving). Would you ask your skinny friends to eat less? Then why should you? You only need to go low carb to maximum 50grams per day till you have lost the weight you want to lose, ie 30 weeks for 30 kilos etc., after that, you can up your carb level to around 120g per day without gaining any weight, so you can then learn to "maintain" while still having bread, pasta, chocolate etc. Please try this way first, it's so much nicer to eat this way. Don't buy low-fat foods as the carbohydrate content of these is much higher and they make the population fatter. Look at the Empower Foods website for "Golden Wheat" bread mix so that you can make your own pizza bases (each pizza fully made with ham, bacon, onion, pepperoni, cheese) will only have 16g of carbohydrate). I make this at least once a week and it's yummy. Have bacon and eggs for breakfast (no toast). Have a low carb "Empower Foods Power Wrap" for lunch filled with creamy whole egg mayo, ham, cheese, tomato and shredded lettuce) and have a normal meat and vegetable dinner at night. If you are hungry in between, have the diet shakes. Just don't have spaghetti or pasta, rice, normal bread, cereals of any kind. Stick with what our ancestors mainly ate i.e meat, fish, vegetables and the occassional fruit and berries. Our bodies are not designed for carbohydrates and this is why a lot of people are obese. Please try this first!!!! Remember, once you're at your goal weight, you can increase your carb intake per day to include all the yummy carb. All the best,
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby whit3tig3y » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:09 pm

cutting out carbs of your diet wont make you lose weight. thats just bull. you need to focus on EVERY part of a diet and do exercise. that means regulating your protein, fat, carbs, salt, sugars, AND to exercise. whoever tells you that you can lose weight without exercise or eating as much as you like is an idiot.
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby Jisgone » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:38 pm

they arent arent an idiot whitey :P
they are an idiot with clogged arteries and a cholesterol problem!
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby whit3tig3y » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:51 pm

probably lol
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby SarahC » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:38 pm

before you go knocking the low carb diet, check out the Empower Foods forum - there's a tonne of articles that have been posted and research on the benefits of that way of eating. Eating eggs won't harm your cholestorol levels, that is a myth.... amongst many others. Cutting out fibrous / low carb veggies is bad though as you need your veggies and fibre...

Don't just assume that low fat high carb is the way to go.. that's just marketing hype. Make your own decision and do what's best for you!
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby whit3tig3y » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:44 pm

you shouldn't have low anything high anything. you should have a satisfactory level of both in your diet. if there is a high and low of everything, choose the normal. its balanced, and its how people have been living for thousands of years. they didn't have calorie counters or fat content labels on food back then.

moderation is the key. EVERYTHING in moderation.
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Re: Lap Band Surgery

Postby EvilWombatQueen » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:51 pm

People didn't have calorie counters back in our evolutionary past, but they had other external forces limiting their food intake and/or forcing them to get more exercise. They had to walk for ages to forage, or run to hunt. They couldn't just fill a shopping trolley at the supermarket with excess calories. Every meal had to be earned through hard work and often they had to do without. So saying that something will keep your weight down because it worked for ancient tribes is ignoring a hell of a lot of variables in lifestyle.

Different eating plans suit different people. There is a lot of propaganda against low carb diets, and a lot of that comes from other competing diet plans. Similarly there is a lot of propaganda against low fat, and that often comes from individuals or groups who have a vested interest in low carb. For most diets if you examine how they work you will find that for most people they are perfectly healthy. If taken to extremes, or without adequate research, you'll run into problems. But when you hear any press condemning one diet or another it's usually written by someone who hasn't researched the subject thoroughly and/or has personal reasons to discredit a competing weight loss plan. I used to be vehemently anti low-carb until I found out that the Atkins diet is nothing like how people perceive it to be in the media. It's not endless steaks smothered in cheese. Vegetables are re-introduced during the plan, they're just not the starchy vegetables that we are used to. If you want to condemn a weight loss plan read the literature first. Don't just condemn it because you don't want it to work.

The thing to remember is that you're never going to get a commercial diet program saying "Pick us because we're just as good as the next one". It doesn't do them any favours to admit that any other diet plan works. That's why you'll always hear them touting that their way is the best way to lose weight and the only way to keep the weight off. And yes, that includes the 'everything in moderation' camp. Because seriously, how many Tim Tams do you think our caveman ancestors ate 'in moderation'? (Here is a link to an excellent blog rant about the Everything in Moderation mantra.)

Even lap band surgery can be a good solution for some people. It's certainly not the best solution for everyone and I would never recommend it as such. But for some people it's their last chance to avoid an early death. And it's up to qualified medical staff to make that assessment; not a bunch of strangers on an internet forum who all seem to have their own dog in the fight of 'the best and only way to lose weight is my way'.
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