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Postby blacklamb » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:57 am

I'm a little confused about how many calories I should be limiting myself to each day. I go to the gym 4 to 6 times a week doing both weights and cardio. I've not been as strict with my diet as I should be, and while I'm not gaining any weight (thank god!) i'm not losing any either.
I went to see my doctor this morning, and he told me that I should be eating 800 calories per day! This seems far too low. I thought I should be eating around 1200, but after seeing the doc today I am more confused than ever.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me? I'm thinking of seeing a nutritionist, but I'd really love to hear some other opinions.
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Re: Question about calories

Postby Siana-leah » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:23 pm

hey blacklamb!
The calories depend on your height, weight and activity level....one useful website i go to is http://www.calorieking.com.au
that will tell you how much...their idea is to get you eating enough to lose about 500g per week.
A dietitian would know better than a doctor so if you need to see somebody then that would be it.
I will give you an example of myself.
Im 5'6 weigh 81.2 kg and have moderate activity levels and it recommends that i eat 1450cal per day.....800 is waaaay to low!!
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Re: Question about calories

Postby JP1 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:50 pm

blacklamb wrote:I'm a little confused about how many calories I should be limiting myself to each day. I go to the gym 4 to 6 times a week doing both weights and cardio. I've not been as strict with my diet as I should be, and while I'm not gaining any weight (thank god!) i'm not losing any either.
I went to see my doctor this morning, and he told me that I should be eating 800 calories per day! This seems far too low. I thought I should be eating around 1200, but after seeing the doc today I am more confused than ever.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me? I'm thinking of seeing a nutritionist, but I'd really love to hear some other opinions.
PS i'm new - hi!


There's no way you should be only consuming 800 calories a day *I believe you probably misheard or misunderstood your doctor* especially if you are doing so much exercise.. go to one of those on-line calorie counters and plug in your details.. censored, weight, height and age..

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calcu ... ulator.php

It can get confusing because you basically have to add on all your daily activities to derive what calories you expend during the day and then make sure that your total intake is lower than this to lose weight.. the greater the deficit, the bigger the loss..

I don't know what your details are or what you need to lose.. if you wanna put them up here with an idea of your aims then I will try to give you some pointers..

What I have done is basically stripped a couple of hundred calories off of my BMR (basic metabolic rate - basically what you'd expend doing absolutely nothing per day apart from just breathing :wink: ).. mine was about 1800 calories a day when I started and is now just over 1700.. then everything you do during the day is basically what you are likely to lose.. ie to lose 1 kilo you'd need to expend 7,700 calories.. if this was over a week you'd need to expend 1,100 calories a day and tbh this shouldn't be too hard.. if you are going to the gym then that's around 500 calories at least in an hour.. remember you expend calories doing all sorts like walking and gardening and house cleaning etc.. *theres calculators on line that tell you these to, try googling).. even typing on the computer and driving a car expends calories so they all add up..

Once I got into this mindset it was pretty easy to lose weight and not even worry about calorie counting because I knew that my food intake (I have planned on about 1500 calories a day) was sufficient for just about maintaining my weight if I did absolutely nothing.. and that what I was losing was related to how much physical activity I expended.. which motivated me to do more and more until l was averaging losinga kilo a week.. for me anyway once i understood the mathematics of how it worked, it just became easier and then I could plan my dietry intake on that base amount (of 1500 calories) and decide what foods were not only healthy and sufficient in quantity but also which I have enjoyed and am content with eating..

Also remember if you have just started and are going down the gym that you may not be showing results on the scales because you are adding muscle etc whilst no doubt losing weight so don't get disheartened about this.. it will come believe me..

Hope this has helped a little.. if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer..
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Re: Question about calories

Postby JP1 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:57 pm

Siana is right with her advice.. consult a dietician or nutritionist by all means and I don't know your circumstances of course but you'd be surprised what information is out there on the net.. just type in a question in google and you will find something of interest.. I'm convinced the key to cracking this whole shooting match is self education.. knowing how your body works and what you are putting into your body.. remember also that diets don't work and it really must be a life style change.. dieting so that you can go back to your (our) old ways just doesn't make sense, think about it.. good luck.. 8)
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Re: Question about calories

Postby JP1 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:02 pm

JP1 wrote:Also remember if you have just started and are going down the gym that you may not be showing results on the scales because you are adding muscle etc whilst no doubt losing weight so don't get disheartened about this.. it will come believe me..



obviously I meant losing fat there (not weight) :wink:
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Re: Question about calories

Postby blacklamb » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:14 pm

thanks everyone for your help! just checked out CalorieKing and it recommends 1900 calories.. i dont think i could hit that, i'd be eating all day! will research this a bit more i think :)
yeah and the doc definitely said 800 calories - i thought he was crazy. he was trying to convince me that nobody could lose weight by eating over 1000 calories!
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Re: Question about calories

Postby JP1 » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:21 pm

blacklamb wrote:thanks everyone for your help! just checked out CalorieKing and it recommends 1900 calories.. i dont think i could hit that, i'd be eating all day! will research this a bit more i think :)
yeah and the doc definitely said 800 calories - i thought he was crazy. he was trying to convince me that nobody could lose weight by eating over 1000 calories!


he sounds like an old thuddie duddie the health system should have retired years ago :lol: :mrgreen: .. yep I highly recommend you research, those 1900 calories would be for a modertaely active person I'd say?!? and include the calorie expenditure for those related activities.. just remember that as it is very important.. I come at it from the other angle which doesn't include any expenditure as a basic and then work from there.. the problem if you rely on the calories you have been quoted is that you will expend them (and maybe a bit more without really realising) and then not do as much (expend energy) as you realise and then wonder why it's not working.. rule of thumb is that you always underestimate calories taken in and laways over estimate calories (physical activity) expended..
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Re: Question about calories

Postby Siana-leah » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:35 pm

Wow John uve got this figured out for sure....
i took the mathematical approach aswell but now like you i dont have to keep counting because i have a rough idea.
Also- Blacklamb- the recommended amount of 1900 cal sounds correct and i would agree that this does seem like a lot....personally the amount recommended to me i cant reach with what i eat either....as long as i know im not starving and im eating well then theres no problem....no point in stuffing urself all day long!
I just keep the max calories in mind if i go out to eat and what not.
thats so weird for a doc to say that....i agree with john....educating urself with the loads of info there is out there is definitely a great way to getting there.
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Re: Question about calories

Postby help6363 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:47 pm

blacklamb wrote:thanks everyone for your help! just checked out CalorieKing and it recommends 1900 calories.. i dont think i could hit that, i'd be eating all day! will research this a bit more i think :)
yeah and the doc definitely said 800 calories - i thought he was crazy. he was trying to convince me that nobody could lose weight by eating over 1000 calories!



A doctor told me the same thing thing when I first started losing weight too......so I do believe you. Hence, I started a 800 calorie diet...... the problem was that after a while my BP dropped dramatically and other health problems occurred....... something about the body being in starvation mode. Not all GPs give good health advice!

I am just a bit worried that eating too few calories can cause serious health issues.

Good luck.....can you let us know how you are going???
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