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Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:10 pm

First let me start by saying.... I HATE DOCTORS.

Ok now that's out of the way...

I go to the doctor, explain how much I have been excercising and the effect that it's had on my hormones and recent fat gain. He asks why I excercise so much. I say because I eat so much. I eat for emotional reasons, and can't stop, and can't find a way of cutting back. (My average intake at the moment is around 2200cal)

What does he do? Writes a prescription of course :roll: Apparently this drug is meant to stop acid in my stomach, and make it feel "happier". Ok, this is after I explained to him that I eat emotionally, be it sadness, loneliness, depression, procrastination, whatever.... and NOT because of any feeling in my stomach. My damn stomach has nothing to do with it!!!! :evil:

Anway, it's called Zoton (active ingredient lansopranzole, whatever that is!). I wonder, has anyone ever had this before? And did it to any good??

I'll be swallowing the four tablets he's given me, then marching back to his office Monday to tell him it didn't work. But just curious if it has worked for anyone?

Thanks!
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby Mandie » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:16 pm

Lasoprazole is a protein pump inhibitor - basically stops your stomach secreting acid, which gives you indigestion or reflux/heartburn. Sometimes when people have reflux or stomach ulcers, it is relieved by eating, so maybe he thinks thats why you eat so much? Sounds like he didn't listen to you at all and the REASONS for you eating - it's not because it helps the pain in your stomach, its an emotional/compulsive thing... hmm.. you'd probably be better off going back to a psychologist for that issue, I'm not sure any tablet would help that...
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:09 pm

Thanks Mandie :D

Yep I explained my little heart out and it was like talking to a brick wall!! I never mentioned anything about having an acidy stomach, reflux, heartburn or anything of the like!! I was so mad, I just went and swallowed all 4 of the rotten things he gave me... I'm starting to think that wasn't such a good idea :oops:

PS, Mandie when I said I hate doctors, I meant all doctors except you :wink:

Just annoys me so much that this bloke will not listen to a word I say, but yet he's happy to listen to anything my specialist says!! He's making me get the specialist (endocrinologist) to send all her stuff to him so he can read it :shock: HELLO, who's the expert here? Me, or some stupid quack I've met like twice?? I think I know more about me, you know since I am me, than her!! Grrrrr :(
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby Mandie » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:23 am

PS, Mandie when I said I hate doctors, I meant all doctors except you :wink:


LOL, I assumed so! :)
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby Fireball » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:00 pm

Hey Sarah. So often I her this about doctors, I don't understand why it happens. Maybe their appointments are so short and it is so easy to run late that they rush their diagnosis based on experience of past patient's problems? Sorry you felt bad about how you were treated but don't let that affect how you relate to all doctors. I decided to make my doctor like the ones you see on tv. I chose a doctor I'd been to that didnt seem too bad and always book to see her - this helps to build a relationship. I share with them what is happening so they could get to know me. I also make sure to book a double appointment if it is complicated/ a few issues that may be time consuming to ensure that they are not rushed. I like my doctor and find she can challenge me and I feel quite comfortable. It does sound like it would be of benefit for you to see a psychologist even if it happens the tablets help a bit.
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:13 am

Hey thanks! The tablets were garbage as expected, since I do not have a problem at all with acid in my stomach (well, apart from what's meant to be there for like, you know, digestion!)

Both the specialist and the gp are wanting to send me to a sports psycologist! I am trying to apply for extended sick leave at work, because I have totally run out of my entitled leave. I'm now having to take leave without pay, which is going to hurt once I see my pay this week!! Anyway, to get more paid leave, I need a doctors certificate saying how much time I need off (I'm hoping for 2-3 months). To have a chance at getting the certificate, I need to see this psycholgist. Went earlier this week... and luckily for me, she actually speaks sense!! Not like the other one I saw that just wanted to look at my food diary all the time and pick holes in what I was eating... this one I think is not going to talk to me about food at all, rather focus on the issues behind the eating! Fingers crossed. If seeing her is what it takes to get me the extra leave, then at least I think it might be tolerable! :P
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby Fireball » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:17 pm

That sounds good Sarah. I hope the can help you with your eating isseus as well as some leave. Let us know how you go. :)
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:26 am

Thanks, I will :)

Have a appointment with the specialist tomorrow, so really hoping for that certificate!! My mum's coming into the consultation with me... ok, embarassing for a 31 year old, but it's working! Doctors listen to her, they don't listen to me. I guess hearing the same story from someone else kind of validates what I'm saying.... like they don't believe me, but will believe it coming from someone else :roll:
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby mumnbub » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:30 pm

Maybe skip your local GP for these issues and see a nutritionist and a counceller/phycologist. I understand you hate doctors but you might just have to look around to find one that suits you. If your eating that many caleries then your obviously not eating the right foods, you really should see someone about both issues or nothing will change. You need to take the first step, no matter how hard it is to give in and see someone.
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:38 pm

Hi mumnbub :) If you can believe it, I actually eat completely healthy food... I don't touch junk foods, haven't done so in many years. It's just the sheer volume of healthy foods that's the problem. I just eat all the time, whether I'm hungry or not :roll: Seeing the shrink anyway, so will see if she has any flashes of brilliance or not lol.
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:42 pm

OMG. The saga continues. Here goes, another rant about drugs :(

I've had it with this doctor I really have. He has agreed to give me the doctor certificate that I need to get extended time off work. BUT, first I have to go and see a psychiatrist for an assessment. Fair enough, I can go rabbit on to this one and have him send his report back to the GP. Easy right? NO!!! If this wacko decides that he wants to prescribe medication (that's what psychiatrists do, right, write prescriptions?), the the GP will FORCE me to take it. Or else he will not allow me to have the leave!! :shock: :shock:

In the meantime, the GP has taken it apon himself to prescribe me some other wonderful mind-altering drug. I'm too angry to get the prescription out of the bin and tell you what it is... but apparently it's a mood stabiliser, they use it to treat people with epilepsy! I think he gave it to me to make me agreeable to his suggestions and not get angry, speak up, or heaven forbid, ask questions!!!!! And yes, if I don't take it, no certificate. He's using it like a bargaining chip... if you don't do this, then I won't give you the certificate. He is not interested at all in working with me to solve my problems, he wants to lay down the law, and force me to comply... even if I KNOW that the treatments will not help or will make me worse! He's a complete a**hole, on some kind of power trip. Plus he's making me feel like some kind of mental case, or that I'm trying to somehow fleece the system. He doesn't trust me whatsoever.... and because of that I can't trust him. He can take his "medications" and shove them where the sun doesn't shine!!!!

God, I've just spent the last three hours in tears of frustration, with my mum here... she's been on the phone to pharmacists and doctors. We've managed to get an appointment with another GP, but not till Monday. I'm now hoping and praying that this guy I can work with!! In the meantime.... I'm bleeding money. I'm out of sick leave, so I'm now not being paid.

Arrrggh, is it just me, or does the idea of psychiatric drugs sound really extreme?? For a straight forward case of overeating/overexcercising and stress???? This whole business I swear has taken my existing stress levels and almost tripled them!!!

Thankfully, I'm now fired up on adrelalin, not tired at all... too wired to be tired!!! Off to take my frustrations out on the gym!!

Sorry again for the long ranting rave :oops:
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby Fireball » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:36 pm

Sound like your having a tough time. :x The problem with the current GP is that you feel you're not being listened to so you dont trust their judgement. It is a good idea see another GP hopefully someone you will feel more comfortable with. Frustrating I know, especially in your financial situation, but maybe after a second opinion you will get the support your after. It's a geat idea to have your mum go along too so you dont feel you having to do it all on your own. I used to think psychiatric drugs, no way! But I worked with people who had different kinds of disabilities and found that psychiatric drugs are like any medictation, if you have a condition and take the correct medication for that condition it can be invaluable. Of course you would want to be comfortable that the drugs being prescribed are what you need, but don't jump ahead and stress yourself out about seeing a psychiatrist. They don't just prescribe drugs. I've known lots of people who were happy about seeing their psychiatrist and didn't have any drugs or just had something mild which they agreed they needed. They look at the whole picture of your physical & mental health and try to work out with you what will help you. It may be they recommend something like cognitive therapy or counselling.
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby SarahC » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:56 pm

Thanks! Yeah, I'm definitely not going back to this doctor! And, I won't be going quietly either. I've managed to get up all the information and the form for making a formal complaint against him, through the Medical Practitioners Board. I'm going to make sure I make him experience even a tiny fraction of the pain that he has caused me.... vindictive little b*tch aren't I?? So be it :twisted:

Next!! :(

Oh yeah, and the sports psycologist that he referred me to... turning out to be a complete waste of time as well!!! Amongst other things, she's given me a list of "rules" that I have to follow re my food and eating behaviours. Basic stuff, like eating only at the table, waiting 20 mins before eating, keeping food out of sight, etc, etc.. I explained that I had tried all of those things before plus more. Again, like talking to a brick wall. I KNOW that trying to impose strict rules on myself only backfires in the end, and I just rebel against myself (or in this case, someone else) and splurge completely!! :roll: At $165 a pop, think she might have to go too!! :roll:

I'm going away tomorrow morning for what is supposed to be a really fun weekend away. I've been looking forward to it for months. Now, I'm not even packed, and all I want to do is stay home :cry:
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby mumnbub » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:30 pm

It sounds like your stress is getting out of control and stress will lead to further complications and the need for other drugs so please take it easy. I think you need to find a proffessional you really work well with, be it a GP or psycologist- just someone who will listen to you and help work through the stress.
I think it is also a good idea to head to your local library and pick up maybe a yoga DVD or meditation CD, these wont cost you anything to try so it cant hurt. Have you been in to see centerlink? They might be able to offer you some assistance for a while, it might not be much but its better than nothing at all.

I really hope you find someone who you can work well with for your sake- please also take your mother as she will be able to help explain things to your doctor so you can keep your stress levels down
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Re: Another question about drugs (rant warning)

Postby flaminjo » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:52 pm

no i have no experience with zoton, so forget about the side effects!
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