All of these books are dealing with the WHOLE issue of weight loss not just the psychology. My quotes however were NOT about the psychology of eating at night (I could have quoted them and others on that issue but did not) but the scientific and biological base for not eating just before bed.
I was addressing the issue of hunger (real) and not appetite (psychological). In Dr Garry Egger and Dr Andrew Binns' book, The Experts' Weight Loss Guide (a book written by doctors for doctors and other health professionals) they define the two as "There is an often-overlooked distinction between 'hunger' and 'appetite'. Hunger is the biological need
to find food and eat food in response to internal signals. Appetite is the psychological desire or want
for food or drink which may be learned through conditioning and/or early experience."
Only Bob Greene referred to it as a "rule" and to be fair on him his intention is that it is his advice for those who what to lose weight. Andrew Cate refers to it as a strategy and the others offer it as expert scientific advice or practical advice (such as Wimhurst and Musoumeci who have done what others seek to do). The thing about advice is that anyone is free to accept it or reject it but they do so with the implied consequences of ignoring good advice.
A "good healthy snack" may be without dire consequence for normal weighted people but this is not what this Forum is about. This is the place for dealing with being highly overweight, obese and super-obese (which was MY category!). We here are trying to squeeze the maximum benefits that we can. Snacking late at night isn't one of them.
I still think that you have no idea about real hunger. Interesting, most overweight people share this belief with you. You have never experienced 'starve as to death' hunger. Those on the weight loss journey discover that their "real hunger" pangs aren't as bad as they imagined them to be and are very manageable. They learn to distinguish between hunger and appetite.
My father was an alcoholic and there were times when I was growing up when money was in sort supply. My mother made sure us four kids never went without. Even if it meant she missed an occasional meal. Nevertheless she would never compare that experience as approaching anywhere near her wartime experiences. Why?...because in Australia there are always options. There is always some sort of help somewhere - whether that be government or private means. There is a world of difference living on the streets of a major city in Australia or one in Pakistan for example. There a boy on the streets after not being able to eat for two or three days finds himself caught in child prostitution. Some friends of mine decided to go onto the streets in the 80's. One of the girls was recognised by a friend of her mother's when at a food kitchen. That friend berated her mother (a leading feminist in this state) for allowing her daughter on the street. Her mother pointed out that her daughter was free to come home any time she wanted and that was her choice to be there (living in squats and with druggies) - and that she knew the "system" well enough so as to survive (both government and private). After two years of that lifestyle she got herself together, did further education and is now happy married and a high school teacher.
No matter how you may feel about the colour of a particular current government of Australia even at it's worst...living in Australia still is much better than many places in the world. What governments don't provide (federal, state and local), others fill in the gaps. For example, many churches provide food and material help for those who don't have food. Real hunger in Australia is optional (there is help for them) but for many countries around the world that is not the case. Truly we are a lucky country.
Experience in the end is the real teacher in all this. I was super-obese. I weighed in at 153.7kg at the beginning of this journey. I tell you categorically what I had experienced was "appetite" not "hunger". At the beginning of my journey going without food for half an hour seemed like I was starving to death...but that was ignorance talking. I learnt the truth down the track...this is a journey about confronting reality. I got real.
You are not stuffed. My job entails working up a sweat when others are eating (and feasting at that!) and I often work late at night. You learn to manage a healthy lifestyle in the midst of your life. I have...so can you.