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Postby Groovychic » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:40 am

Can someone please tell me what test you get to have your thyroid tested? I think I read somewhere that there is actually 2 tests but not sure. I'm thinking of going to the doc this arvo and asking for it to be tested. I have been trying so hard for particularly since New Year and nothing has changed whatsoever. Not even changed in body shape at all as I tried some of my smaller clothes on yesterday and they still looked just as bad and as tight as before. And for the last 6 months of last year I was being really good with the exercise. I was falling down a tad on the eating as I have resolved a lot of that so far this year. There has to be something wrong when other people I know eat much worse than I and do only a small amount of exercise! I was talking to a friend who is about 20kg overweight and she has lost another 6 kgs recently. I asked her what she eats and what exercise she does and she said she walks to the end of her driveway, approx 150m and back once a day. And she eats loads more crap than me. She is the takeaway queen! So that was it. I hung up and burst into tears. I looked at the symptons for hyperthyroidism and I would say I have a few of them. Certainly not all of them but a few to warrant a test I hope. The doc will no doubt say to me yet again you're not overweight. I am 160kgs tall and weigh 71kgs and have fat rolls on my stomach etc. I am such a lovely sight in bathers!!! But I dont care as I want the exercise. Neither of my parents are/were overweight at all. Actually my mother is tiny and my father was a stick, even before he got sick. My grandparents were/are tiny as well. My grandmother weighs 45kgs! And she has never been much bigger than that and she was always about my height until she started to shrink a while back! So there are certainly no genes in me that would dictate a larger size. Ok so I am probably only 12 kgs or so overweight but it doesnt explain why I cant even move half a kg. I think if the doc says to me yet again that I'm not overweight I am just going to burst into tears. I am a size 14 pant and 16 top! On a small frame. I think I will probably start yelling at him if he says it to me again! So if someone could tell me what test to ask for it would be very much appreciated. I am sorry to have a whinge but I know I should write down my thoughts and that is what I am doing!
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Postby Fairie » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:54 am

Sorry Groovychic, I know how frustrating it can be too move the weight wether is is a small amount or a lot. I know you loose more if you have a lot to loose but it will slow down as you get closer to goal.

Have you tried changing some of the excersises you are doing our body retains a memory and becomes comfortable and some times needs to be confused so it doesn't know what you are going to do next.

It's the same with eating, try a few different things at different times.

I am sure the others will have heaps of ideas for you.
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Postby Groovychic » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:02 am

Thanks for that Fay. Yes I took up swimming a couple of weeks ago and I do the odd aerobics session. So I do tend to do different things.
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Postby Butterfly_Dawn » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:23 am

It's hard. Maybe tell your doctor all that you have been trying and how little effect it is having. It may be that something that you are doing in all good faith is actually having a reverse effect. I recently read an article on increasing your metabolism which said you shouldn't go more than 3 hours without some form of sustenance otherwise your metabolism slows down. So I am now reducing my main meal sizes and making sure I have healthy snacks to keep my metabolism going and my blood sugar even. Maybe it's something like that?

Try not to get angry at your doctor though. They're probably just too busy to quite pick up all the information without you handing it to them on a silver platter (fantastic health system we have :roll: ). How bout tell him/her that you would like to lose 10ish kg and that you are concerned there may be something wrong with what you're doing, or maybe a medical concern becasue nothing seems to work. Take a copy of your food and exercise diary so they can have a quick squiz too. If they think what you're doing is good, ask if it could be your thyroid and tell them you read about the symptoms, some of which apply to you. They may also have other ideas.

They might refer you to a nutritionist if they think it's your diet, or other specialists if they think it's something medical like digestive issues etc.

Most of all DON'T BE SCARED TO ASK QUESTIONS!!! Doctors forget they are dealing with people who don't know things medical. I annoy my doctor by asking billions of questions. And IT'S YOUR BODY, you have the right to REFUSE TREATMENT you don't want or don't understand fully or to GET A SECOND OPINION. My doctor once told me I should go on the Aitkins diet to lose weight for my heart which she was concerned about becasue I had given a very high blood pressure reading while laying half naked on the exam table waiting for a pap smear the first time I had visited her :roll: . This doctor has recently been fined or something for signing blank prescriptions for a colleage and has retired. Needless to say I did not follow that diet advice and my blood pressure checks over the next couple of months were fine.

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Postby Groovychic » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:33 am

Thanks for that Tegan. I will say to him about wanting to lose 10kgs and not finding anything that seems to work at all. He has been my doctor for 15 years and is a good doc but you are right, they are always in a hurry. I will tell him about the exercise and eating. And that sometimes I do indulge in the naughty stuff but certainly not enough to warrant no change in body whatsoever.
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Postby Dolly » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:47 am

Hi Groovyvhick, I have hypothyroidism.
They test whether you have it or not by doing a simple bloodtest.

I remember years ago when I was borderline hypothyroid, my naturopath gave me heaps of kelp (which contains lots of iodine) and a week later it showed I was not hypothyroid.

I did not keep up my intake of iodine over the next couple of years so I became iodine difficient and started getting all these weird symptoms.
I had my period every second week and it would last for 8 days.
I would get tingly in my hands and face and sometimes would wake up with dead limbs and sometimes faint from lack of blood, iron and B12.
My hair on top of my head was starting to fall out from lack of iron.
I gained weight even if I only ate one round of bread and two apples in the whole day.
I could not perspire when I jogged even in the sun.
always had cold hands and feet.
I was always pale.
I had dry skin on my hands and lower legs.

4 male doctors gave me tests over the next 2 years to see what was wrong with me (they did not do the thyroid test, even though my symptoms were classic) and they concluded in saying it was all in my imagination (not sure how fainting is my imagination)
Anyway I then got a female doctor (to have my pap test and mammo referral) and told her my symptoms and straight away she said, you are hypothyroid.
She then did the blood test to confirm it and she was right.

As the years go by and I take my daily thyroid hormone pill, I find it's a little easier to lose weight but it's still a struggle, I am at least able to eat 1000 calories per day without gaining.

I know a few people (1 male and 6 females) with hypothyroidiam and they don't have any of the terrible symptoms I have other than always feeling tired and being overweight, they also eat twice what I do :shock:


I pray that you don't have this awful disease. But if you do I pray you don't get the other symptoms on the list.

Some Symptoms of Hypothyroidism

Fatigue (couch potato symdrome)
Weakness
Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
Coarse, dry hair
Dry, rough pale skin
Hair loss (fine and sparse)
Cold intolerance (can't tolerate the cold like those around you)
Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches
Constipation
Depression
Irritability
Memory loss
Abnormal menstrual cycles
Decreased libido



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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:57 am

Well Dolly I have the fatigue definitely. As an example, I got up at 6 this morning, started to go for a walk but it was hurting the back of my heal for some reason so only did 1km and now it is nearly 8 and I am tired. I seem to need to have a short nap in the afternoons as well. I don't seem to have the course hair but could be losing a bit. For quite a few years I have lost a fair bit of hair when brushing etc but I have put that down to a stressful job etc. It's not really any different now so I'm not sure about that one. My skin is fine and same as normal. Depression, yes particularly since I cant lose the weight, and abnormal periods!!!! Gee now that is driving me mad. I might go 3 months with regular once a month, then it will be 2 months before another one, last one was 6 weeks after the previous and it has been just about 6 weeks yet again! With a little breakthrough about 3 weeks or so ago. So I don't know what is going on. I am 33 so it certainly isn't menopause. My mother was in her 50s when she started. Decreased libido. Ask my partner and he would say yes. Very on again off again. Much to his annoyance!!!
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Postby Dolly » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:04 am

Hi Groovychick (aka Guest)
It certainly looks like you're doing the right thing going for that thyroid test then.
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Postby Groovychic » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:45 am

Hi Dolly. I didn't even realise that I was guest!!!! Anyway I called the docs office but he wasn't coming in yesterday! So I had a bit more of a think about it and a chat to a friend who's sister had the problem with her thyroid a few years ago and I asked her when her sister went on the tablets to help fix her thyroid did she lose weight. And my friend said s..t no!!!! To put it bluntly! She stacked on more weight she said. So I decided to get some kelp tablets. Well my girlfriend got them for me as she was going to the shops yesterday. I'll go and pick them up from her later on today. I thought I will give them a go for how ever long 1 bottle lasts and see if anything has happened by then. If not then off to the doc I go. I also checked the centrum that I have taken very irregular over the last 6 months or so and it has 100mgc of iodine in that. Not as iodine but as another form. Plus I am going back to the fruit in the mornings. I'm going to have a salad most days for lunch but I think if I go back to what I was doing in 2001 when I lost the weight you never know, it might just work! But I won't be eating as much crap in the afternoons and for dinner as I was then! And if it doesnt work at all then I will say that the chances that I have a problem with my thyroid would have risen tremendously!!! So will keep you posted when and if I do go and get the test.
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Postby Lesley » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:56 pm

Hi Groovychic, I put on a lot of weight 5-6 years ago due to chronic pain and depression. I've been trying seriously for the last year, with no help from the Dr when I ask, to lose it. Any way, last visit I stated how tired I was all the time, not even able to do one part of house work or a 10 minute walk with out feeling so tired that I end up asleep. I feel like I'm sleeping my life away. I also mentioned that I'm having trouble losing weight even when I eat well and do short bursts of activity- pace myself. He has ordered blood tests - he said he will check everything. I'm not sure what that means, whether it means, thyroid, liver, etc. or what. I hope I don't have any problems, as I'm sure you hope you don't. For now I'm making sure I eat small meals (200-250 calories) every 2 1/2 - 3 hours so my blood sugar levels stay even and trying to incorporate some sort of protein into every meal, again to keep the blood sugar levels even. It hasn't helped yet, but I read you need to be doing this constantly for over 2 weeks before the body registers that this is the norm and starts functioning properly. I'm also eating more vegetables and drinking more water and herbal tea as these are meant to give you energy too.

I hope this info, along with everyone elses helps.
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Postby Guest » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:38 pm

Hi Lesley....thanks for letting me know. I have started to eat fruit in between meals now as I had read previously that you are meant to eat every 3 hours. Hard to do when you don't feel hungry!!! I hope your doctor comes up with something from the tests. I started to take the kelp tablets today and I will give it a few weeks to see if anything has happened. Will keep you all posted!
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Postby Groovychic » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:58 pm

OOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYY forgot to sign in again!!! Guest was me in disguise.......hahahaha :P
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Postby Angel » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:01 pm

A little late but I'll wager in anyway.

Just ask your doctor to do a blood test to check if your thyroid is working (THL) (this is what I did). Unfortunately if it falls within the normal THL range (range is very large, so most people fall within it) then they will tell you everything is fine. I tried to get my T3 and T4 levels tested as this would definitely tell me whether my thyroid was working properly but because I fell within the normal range for THL the pathology refused to do it. I think it is very costly. Hopefully you have better luck.

Have you considered asking your doctor if he knows a good local dietician - they might be able to help more than your GP or perhaps a personal trainer.

If you don't already, perhaps use the forum's food diary - someone may be able to pinpoint what's happening????

I hope those kelp tablets work for you.
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Postby Guest » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:40 pm

Hi Angel....I'm using the personal diaries now. I'm thinking if the kelp doesnt work then I will go to a naturapath first. I know my diet was pretty crap previously but have changed it tremendously in the last month so feel it is now adequat. Save for not eating enough maybe. But I don't feel all that hungry. Sweet cravings are disappearing so I am pretty impressed about that.
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Postby Angel » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:29 pm

Hey Groovychic (aka Guest),

Be careful, if you don't eat enough your body goes into starvation mode and stores everything you eat.

I have the same problem re: not being hungry, prior to me trying to lose weight I could go from breakfast to about 8pm without eating and not realise but this is BAD. I find when its really hot my appetite dies so I've taken to eating something small often and of course, I write everything down so I know I'm not overeating. At least this way it keeps your metabolism in good working order. Worth a try . . . .

Its your choice but I am now wary of naturopaths. I was seeing one last year for 5 months and lost 9kgs but went of the very restrictive diet and put back on 15kgs. It also cost me around $1,500 (for supplements and consultations).

If you don't mind me asking what sort of healthy eating plan are you following?
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